Feb 10

Posted by Nathan on Sunday, February 10th, 2008 at 11:34 am

Confusing Checkers Ad

Sometimes reality is hard to define. At Reality Crowd we look at the issue from all sorts of perspectives and angles. Sometimes we have to break out quantum mechanics or theology to make a point. But what hope do we really have of defining reality if we can’t even agree on what an ad is telling us to do? This ad from Checkers is an enigma wrapped in a mystery. What am I supposed to purchase? What do I get when I purchase it? I have read over this many times and I can’t for the life of me figure it out. Posters on this photo’s Flickr page have been trying to discern it’s mystery as well and it’s not going too well. Here are some choice selections:

i would say that the “2 for” deal is a two for one deal and thus i think the add really means. buy two sandwiches for the price of one and get a third item for free…
i think

“So essentially you get two double deals, and 1 double value for the price of 1 double deal.” So, that’s five sandwiches for the price of two, correct? Except that one of them (”value”) is smaller?

So if I order the “2 for $3 Double Cheeseburger Deal”….I get a FREE SINGLE DEAL, which is what, a single cheeseburger? No, can’t be, because it’s from the DOUBLE VALUE menu, which I assume only has things like Double Cheeseburgers. But then is one double cheeseburger a “SINGLE DEAL”?

The debate rages on several different websites…for some choice comments (and a few good laughs) check out the Flickr page, the post on boing boing, and the post on Without Warning for more.

So what do you think? As a lover of reality how do you explain this?

Jan 25

Posted by Nathan on Friday, January 25th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

One tactic that has been increasingly used by the religious in debates (both online and out in the “real” world) is to attempt to show that their claims are in fact backed up by science and reason. This has been the tactic of the “Intelligent” design movement and is often used by one of it’s leading proponents Kent Hovind. Essentially, their arguments are stated in a manor that makes them sound scientific. If I as a listener wanted to believe what these people are saying I would come away with the sense that they had somehow proven something to me, through reason and science.

However, when people that make arguments like these come across actual scientists, or even just people who are listening closely, their arguments are usually demonstrated to be much less solid then they would have you believe. Take Shawn (aka VenomFangX) on Youtube. Shawn has posted many videos that try to prove the existence of god, or jesus, or that dinosaurs and people were around at the same time 6000 years ago. If you don’t listen closely you might think that he makes some good points…but luckily for us a lot of people listen closely!

Here is an example of the type of argument Shawn tends to use, as well as some rational responses to it:

Sounds pretty good right? From the comments on YouTube you would think that Shawn had stumbled onto some ultimate line of reasoning that forever ended the Reality / Religion debate. After all, he even states at the end that there is no way to disprove him. I guess we can all go home and prepare for the apocalypse right? But wait:

That would seem to call into question Shawn’s rock solid “proof” of god’s existence. It also pretty much shoots down his (and all creation “scientists”) style of argument. By proclaiming that you are absolutely right without question you leave yourself wide open to being taken down, because if you are then wrong about one thing what does that indicate for everything else?

Or how about this response?

In fact, Youtube is FULL of videos of people debunking Shawn’s argument. Shawn is hiding all the negative comments on his videos (why the need if you are absolutely without question correct?). Read on for more videos addressing Shawn’s claims.

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Jan 24

Posted by John on Thursday, January 24th, 2008 at 8:08 pm

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The absolute truth of our existence will likely never be discovered. Everything we learn leads to more questions. When our species learned that matter was made of things called atoms, it appeared that we were much closer to understanding the nature of our universe. Soon, however, we learned that atoms are made of quarks and that there are structures and events existing on an even smaller scale. How do we try to make sense of our existence when every answer seems to lead to more questions?

Scientists who make it their life’s work to advance our understanding of the cosmos play a creative role finding answers. They make theories; they use their imaginations. Having a “theory,” though, means that it needs to be tested. If there really is an answer to the nature of our existence how can we be sure that it is even POSSIBLE to test it? If it can’t be tested, then it isn’t science.

That’s where philosophy comes in to save the day. Philosopher Dr. Nick Bostrom offers his own creative proposal to the nature of our existence: We could all be living in a computer simulation. Though only one of an infinite number of possibilities, his idea sparks much discussion, debate, and creative endeavors by others. His clearest argument is based on the premise that eventually the human race will create a computer that is more powerful than all human brains combined. (He is not alone in making this assertion.) Eventually, he believes, we will be able to run computer simulations in such incredible detail that the inhabitants of this simulated place would simply understand their virtual environment as the universe--the only one they’ve ever known.

It is a compelling argument if you accept that humans will eventually be able to make such a simulation. In that case it seems rather likely that we are also simulated. If you would like an expanded view of Bostrom’s Simulation Argument I have posted three links.

New York Times article:
“Our Lives, Controlled From Some Guy’s Couch”

The original Simulation Argument by Nick Bostrom:
“Are You Living in a Computer Simulation?”

Popular review of Nick Bostrom’s argument
by Brian Eggleston